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by nielsbot 60 days ago
> Islamist elements

They're people. And this is not about religion it's about rights and land.

> turning into Jewish a minority

Again, why the focus on ethnicity and/or race here? Equal rights for all people without regard to religion or ethnicity. (Otherwise it's racism)

> It will need to happen by force.

Some kind of force, yes.

> not likely to happen

Doesn't make it morally wrong.

> west is very heavily invested in Israel

disgusting.

> strong self reliance

Pretty sure Israel can't survive in its current state without being propped up by the West.

> Sanction it for something and it will likely make its own or get it from a different actor, this is what happens in the first 30 years of its existence (US would not sell it arms back then).

We should still sanction them.

> "Islamist"

Stop saying this, it's racist and again diverts from the fact that the conflict is about peoples rights and land, not religion.

> How about, then, a different alternative where Israel is recognized as a done deal, just like the US is? In both cases someone suffered from their creation but no one is calling to dismantle the US and no one is giving Indians their home.

Yeah, that's fucked up. The US is fucked up. But, I think it will probably happen this way. The Palestinians who were originally on the land will be ethnically cleansed and/or put on reservations, let out to work in Isreal for cheap, and the Israelis will be free to party in the Gaza Riviera atop the bones of hundreds of thousands of buried Palestinian skulls.

> That won’t happen though because the Palestinians are weaponized against Israel by Islamists

It's. Not. About. Religion.