[kleiba2]

> Well after software I wanted a life that involved a lot less computer usage and a lot more being on my feet.

Oh man, that's so me at this stage of my life. But I cannot easily get out of the rat race, with family responsibilities and mortgages and all...

[freedomben]

Same here. Despite having intentions of not improving lifestyle with income (so I could be FIRE), it happened anyway with kids. I love my kids (of course) but they are so much more expensive than I ever could have imagined. Cost of living has just skyrocketed in the past 6 or 7 years (cue the 11 year old saying "Siiiiiixxxxx Seeeevvvvvennnn") and wages haven't changed much. Unless something radically changes, I'm chained to this desk for at least then next 10 years.