[abletonlive]

> Looking at the US culture, it's not hard to see entrepreneurship as a societal disease.

It's easy if you're in some nihilistic and cynical echochamber like reddit. For everybody else, entrepreneurship is still quite celebrated and seen as a positive for society.

[krageon]

I think the fact that you can claim this without any apparent sarcasm means you operate in a very specific part of society most people aren't a part of.

[abletonlive]

I live in the United States where entrepreneurship is a common way of living. I have the stats to back it up too.

Maybe you just live in an echo chamber such as reddit where you believe entrepreneurship means making millions of dollars in the tech industry.

[r-w]

Really? Who do you know who isn't working in tech and finds something to celebrate in entrepreneurship?

[weakened_malloc]

In Australia one of the most common paths to wealth outside of owning property is literally taking up a trade as an apprentice, then after a couple of years beginning your own plumbing/electrician/brick laying/etc business.

That's still very highly celebrated. Interestingly enough, people with Mediterranean backgrounds also feel this way (there's lots of crossover here btw).

Owning your own business is one of the best things one can do in that culture. There's a story in a Taleb book about a Lebanese (I think?) man who went on to become one of the execs at Mobil or some other oil company, and his mother was still disappointed that he didn't own his own company.

[kilpikaarna]

Europe is obviously full of sole proprietor tradesmen, shop and restaurant owners etc. It's completely orthogonal to the apparent shortage of VC-funded startup unicorn hustle culture.

[dcrazy]

I am thoroughly perplexed by this statement. Every single person who starts their own restaurant, painting company, events planning company, etc. is an entrepreneur. The appeal of saving up enough to break free of your job and start working for yourself is so pervasive as to be almost entirely unspoken. It’s something that, being raised as an American, you simply believe is good in the same way you believe that stealing is bad.

And yet I can’t name a single entrepreneur that I know personally outside of tech.

[deaux]

> Every single person who starts their own restaurant, painting company, events planning company, etc. is an entrepreneur.

These are completely irrelevant to this thread, so I'm perplexed that you're perplexed. Read the thread, see that it's about differences between the US and the EU, and then realize what is meant by entrepeneur _in context_. Europe isn't very different from the US when it comes to plumbing company owners.