[hackable_sand]

Most shooters are an abstraction, i.e. you're not really shooting anyone.

You are, but you're not.

Most of them are in the same league of violence that an aggressive debate would be in.

[bawolff]

Which is really sad. Video games with dehumanized violence: a-ok. Video games that show you the actual consequences of violence, well that is a bridge too far.

Perhaps soiety would be better if it was reversed.