[enejej]

The funding allocation is a reflection of different cultures really.

I’m from the UK but there’s no way there’s the same density, drive, and hunger to take risk, to the extent that you find in US. Also there’s a lot more synergy in the US vs a fragmented Europe.

[kitbrennan]

I’m also from the UK and I think this is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

As a UK founder that has raised in the UK, I have seen our US competitors raise substantially more with substantially less traction, so in future I’m significantly more tempted to look across the pond for raising. It has little to do with my culture vs theirs, and all to do with where the opportunity sits.

Many of the other founders I know with the “drive and hunger” as you put it, have already made the same jump.

[deaux]

This seems pretty limited to tech. For example in domains like media and marketing - I mean startups in these fields, not "marketing team of a tech startup" which is tech - the amount of "drive" feels the same whether the US or the EU.

So it's purely tech. And there, that extra "drive" that leads to the US and modern VC culture seems to largely be based on a hunger for power and immense wealth, when it comes down to it. I know everyone pretends it doesn't, changing the world for the positive, blah blah. But when push comes to shove, that's the outcomes we're seeing.

[abletonlive]

> It has little to do with my culture vs theirs, and all to do with where the opportunity sits.

So it does have to do with culture. The US has better culture for starting a business. You can't just divorce the opportunity that came from the culture just to make a point.

[zmmmmm]

there's probably a high correlation between people with the "drive and hunger" to build a startup in the first place with those that would have the "drive and hunger" to relocate overseas to make it successful.

[doctorpangloss]

There are places with the same entrepreneurial drive that are part of the EU. But look at an LP-facing deck for a VC fund in Europe, and I can't recall ever seeing an investment with a little flag of Poland.

My belief is the underlying dynamics are less about, generalizing about cultures. Like you're right that that's what US VCs say, and collective belief is truth in markets even if it is not truth in reality. The bigger factor is EU, meaning French, Dutch, German, Swiss and Italian capital, are concentrated into the hands of large, opaque family trusts, structured primarily around tax evasion first and foremost, and other feudal issues, rather than minimizing the downsides of real risk or whatever, and that feudal stuff means, why do early stage investing? Without that there's little innovation. Hence Mistral, a growth stage company that everyone is happy making the growth stage, "dot AI" and "dot EU" winner. Presumably for EU sovereign wealth to be forced to buy.

[deaux]

> There are places with the same entrepreneurial drive that are part of the EU.

Name them rather than being vague, clearly people here want to hear where they are.

[zmmmmm]

Yet the UK did produce Deepmind. Which you can look at both ways since it got gobbled up by Google. But it at least came from the UK.

I assume the article excludes the UK, I feel like UK has much more of a startup and VC scene than Europe does and I wonder if that is part of the issue : if you do want to create a startup, the London is a better place than mainland Europe. So even startups that for whatever reason won't take US funding still land outside Europe.

[yobbo]

Deepmind was not a viable business at the time Google acquired it. Today, it is probably even less viable. It functions as R&D-lab for Google which has its own products and datacenters.

[re-thc]

> Yet the UK did produce Deepmind

That was a long time ago. That UK is not the UK of today.