[ck2]

No more offensive weapons

Let them buy all the defensive weapons they can afford, Iron Dome, etc.

I think US gives them the weapons otherwise, they don't even buy them? No more.

It is insanity to let them just kill whomever they want whenever they want as many as they want

Israel has a right to exist but not kill thousands of innocent people

They also have universal healthcare while US never will because we've spent $21 Trillion since 9/11 on militarization, adding another trillion this year and now have to replace all the tomahawks etc

[hebelehubele]

> right to exist

https://youtu.be/JEoIUoH6kZY

[sgt]

They will just start making their own offensive weapons.

[A_D_E_P_T]

They're import-reliant. They don't make steel, don't make aluminum, don't have a large chemicals industry, etc. They're very vulnerable to sanctions and trade restrictions.

[dewey]

Start? They have a large military sector already with IAI, Elbit etc.

[hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm]

No, just give them nothing. "Right to exist" is a bullshit propaganda term. Doesn't mean anything.

[A_D_E_P_T]

If it were me, we'd go a step further and apply sanctions, just as e.g. Russia and Myanmar are sanctioned.

[tarkin2]

It frames themselves as under attack, which thereby gives themselves moral justification to attack, and when those attacked attack back they fulfill their justification, and the circle of violence and death perpetuates.

[well_ackshually]

>Israel has a right to exist

Countries don't have any "right to exist", this very term is thought terminating propaganda created by Israel. Israel does not have a right to exist, countries either are, or aren't. People have a right to live.

And as it stands, Israel is a terrorist nation commiting war crimes and a genocide daily.

"Defensive" weapons also do not exist. If you give Israel weapons, or sell them weapons, you are complicit in their actions.

[constantius]

> thought-terminating propaganda

Exactly. I always struggled with this (which is the desired effect) until I heard Francesca Albanese give this exact answer.

There is no right to exist for a country under international law, but there is a right to live for people.