[hgoel]

Insane reasoning after threatening genocide, the "no quarter" comment, previous bad faith negotiations, then further bombing the people trying to negotiate in previous attempts.

This isn't just about the current regime wanting to stay in power, do you think the average Iranian is going to trust the side that literally threatened to end their civilization overnight? That goes far beyond calling for regime change.

[WarmWash]

May I remind you the Iranian regime was locking down the internet and shooting protesters in the street in the weeks leading up to the attack.

[hgoel]

How does that justify threatening genocide and the end of their civilization?

Having previously lived in Iran for 4 years, I know that the Iranian regime is very oppressive and cruel, but all the US has done is fuel them. They thought that bombing Iran and killing Khamenei would lead to civil war and a collapse of the regime. It did none of that and invited retaliation. In return, the US just made all of the regime's claims true by making the very threats the regime had been saying were the US's intentions for the Iranian people.

Being precise and consistent in messaging that the goal was regime change would've been the absolute bare minimum bar for lending credibility to this war.

[WarmWash]

Trump is not particularly intelligent.

[postsantum]

Didn't americans/israelis admit recently they had mossad agents to incite the violence and supplied guns?

Hamfisted propaganda is not working as well as before

[WarmWash]

They still certainly are doing that. But the movement against the regime is organic going back years now. Iron fisted ultra conservative theocrats suck

[queenkjuul]

May i remind you that literally nothing on earth justifies genocide

[thot_experiment]

LMAO ok, I mean that's bad but if we're referencing history to contextualize a situation let's start with the USA and UK deciding that "sovereign country" isn't a real thing if they vote to nationalize their oil industry. We're heading toward decade 8 of FAFO here with zero lessons learned.

[dimator]

Similar shit happening in North Korea. Should the US go there next?

Regime change was NOT the goal, right? Wasn't that the party line?

[raincole]

No one goes for NK because they have nuke. The exact situation the US/Israel try to prevent for Iran.

[dimator]

This is Saddam's WMDs all over again.

[drnick1]

Regime change isn't the goal per se, but disarmament is. Angry mullahs without missiles and nukes are harmless.

[SpicyLemonZest]

Whoever told you this was lying to you. Trump released a statement on the first night of the war explicitly stating that regime change was the goal. Disarmament is the new goal he fabricated when the first one didn't work.

[dimator]

I don't think there's any point in digging into soil to implant the goal posts anymore, because they'll be moved in 6 hours. Best to just use a couple of shills to hold them up.

[megamike]

and N Korea is sidelined by the USA because N Korea does not have anything we 'want' i.e. oil gold silver rare earth......