[swiftcoder]

> dead battery? mac wont start for 15 min on connecting power

Having just received an M4 in the mail with a completely flat battery, I can confirm this is nearer 10 seconds on Apple silicon (you are correct it used to be this way on Intel Macs)

[starkparker]

Having an M1 and an M2, no it isn't. Takes at least 5 minutes on the 65W charger to get bootable from a full drain. Maybe something changed with the newer models but it isn't a benefit across all Apple Silicon.

[swiftcoder]

Have never tried the 65W charger, but have had no issues booting from fully discharged with the 96W brick