[izacus]

Except that the system that removes culpability, visibility and consequences of this kind of abuse is set up deliberately to avoid liability and consequences of such actions.

This isn't a tee-hee accident, this is deliberate organizational design which removed any kind of bad consequences or even thought about what the software does to user from the engineers at Microsoft. They're happy about that. They now don't need to deal with that. And if you'll ask them, they will refuse a change that will make them responsible for abuse of their users.

So, to hell with them :)

[john_strinlai]

and even with all of that in mind, this was not a coordinated microsoft attack against wireguard. which was my point.

i am in no way defending microsoft. just pointing out that the conspiracy-theorists suggesting that some exec at microsoft specifically targeted wireguard for whatever nefarious purpose was, well, a conspiracy.

[izacus]

You're trying to make a difference where there is none. Yes, they didn't say "we'll attack wireguard". They said "we'll setup our processes so apps like will end up being abused to save us effort", which is the same, just packaged into bureaucracy.

It's kind of bizarre how y'all pretend that systematic bearocratic evil doesn't exist. After being brainwashed about its evils in USSR for your young live.