[john_strinlai]

"just context" is important.

i get that everyone has a frothing-at-the-mouth extreme hatred to microsoft and its employees. but microsoft did not say "fuck jason, fuck wireguard, lets try and shut that down". that would be a way different story.

[r14c]

What's the accountability mechanism here? Make a big fuss online and hope the bad press outweighs the negligence?

[john_strinlai]

i point out in my original comment that i think it is stupid that the only way to resolve this sort of thing is via social media. i think it is insane. and the lack of accountability is also crazy, given the influence microsoft (and other big tech) has over everyday life.

i think people are reading my comment as some sort of defense of microsoft. its not.

all i wanted to emphasize was that this incident, while obviously ridiculous, did not come about because a bunch of microsoft employees sat in a cigar-smoke filled room saying "lets destroy wireguard".

[trinsic2]

It doesn't matter. They are doing things that are clearly hostile to users, they should pay dearly for it.

[john_strinlai]

get mad at the shitty stuff they do (there is a lot!), not the fictitious things people come up with in hn comments.

[ziml77]

It's so unhelpful for people to get mad at made up crap. It completely weakens the impact of the pushback. Like if someone is in a position where people are getting mad over all sorts of made up stuff anyway, what's even the point of avoiding actually doing any of the things they're mad about? Might as well get something out of it if the downside doesn't change either way.