[conartist6]

I understand that money is at the root of the question. I don't see any problem with my strategy for making money, which is to win over all their users with a wildly better product.

Github itself basically followed this route. They didn't built Git on top of SVN. They built a much better product (than Sourceforge) and they used network effects (particularly their free-for-OSS offer) to grow their userbase until they could start to land corporate contracts.

[cedilla]

I don't know if you wanted to imply that, but just to make sure no one misunderstands: GitHub didn't invent git.

I don't know if they were the first git forge, but they were certainly among the first.

[conartist6]

Yeah I know that they didn't. Even though they didn't invent it and don't own it, it's still the cornerstone of the wall that has become the Github empire.

The specific problem is that all the competitors to Github have to use git, and that limits how different they can really be than Github and thus how aggressively they can compete to win users

[not_kurt_godel]

> The specific problem

Problem for whom? Users who are happy using git? Or conartist86 who is thinking about how to get money?

> the competitors to Github have to use git

Why? Syncing between various VCSes has been a thing since forever. If you can't handle a compatibility layer to support git+new-better-thing, you don't have the technical chops to build new-better-thing in the first place.

[conartist6]

I do want forwards compatibility, I don't want backwards compatibility.

The way I think about it, if I make a backwards compatible product I might end up with users who never really wanted any change at all, and those people would be almost impossible to make happy. Those are the "faster horse" users. What I need is to find the people whose life would be changed by a car!

[not_kurt_godel]

Why would users who never wanted change proactively switch to your product in the first place? And putting them aside, you haven't listed a single concrete technical idea that would indicate you have the vision for a car. Maybe you should spend more time on that than drumming up your grift-adjacent persecution complex.

[conartist6]

They wouldn't. Every adoption curve needs early adopters, who will be people not satisfied with the current state of things. But obviously most people aren't early adopters.

If you would like me to list a single concrete technical idea, I am pleased to oblige. The idea is: universal gaps. Our syntactic-semantic documents can have holes in them, places where we know some content is missing. That allows a document to behave like a template which lets us fill in the blanks. In a text-editor-based IDE there is no equivalent, which means that when I go to make a new sticky regex in Javascript I type //y and the IDE thinks I meant to comment out the rest of the line. It has no way of expressing the concept that between those two slashes something is known to be missing, which is exactly what I want to be able to tell it so that it can understand the difference between the state when I'm about to write a regex body and the state where I'm about to write a comment body

[OJFord]

That's like saying the problem for competitors to Uber is that they still have to take customers between the same A and B.

[conartist6]

Maybe, but the way they captured the market was by offering a differentiated product. We already had cabs and buses, yes, but Uber wasn't just summoning cabs and selling bus tickets, where they? The core experience was still A to B but Uber discovered that there was a lot more consumer innovation possible within the confines of the A to B problem...

[OJFord]

Yes, exactly? And closer competitors to Uber came later and are I assume successful. Just like there is Gitlab, Bitbucket, sourcehut, and several others all 'within the confines of the hosted git problem'.

[conartist6]

There were players for hosted SVN too before git and Github came along. Github got big in part because they weren't in the same crowded market. That others eventually emerged to play in the market with them did little to hurt the return on their initial investment...