[nnevatie]

Cmake might suck, but is arguably the de-facto now. It's not standard, since the C++ committee does not want to deal with the real world (tooling).

[forrestthewoods]

Python was also a shitshow and UV became the new standard in literally less than a year.

That’s an existence proof that a new tool that doesn’t suck can take over an ecosystem.

[nnevatie]

Completely agreed. However, typically a new tool needs to be significantly better for that to happen. In many ways, I see Meson already being that but it hasn't really gained traction at scale.

[forrestthewoods]

also agreed.

UV was so good it was just obviously significantly better.

All I really want is Bazel/Buck but in a simple and easy to use way. I feel like this can be done.