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by WA 65 days ago
Question 9 imho is the most German one ("When someone says 'we should get coffee sometime,' you understand this to mean:").

It depends on context a bit obviously, but most Germans are sincere about it. You either propose coffee or you don't.

However, there's a subset of Germans who seem to propose coffee and then don't follow up themselves, but it's not just a phrase. If you are the one to follow up, they'd join you. Which, to say the least, is annoying, too.

From my German perspective, asking someone for grabbing coffee sometime and not meaning it is a completely stupid thing to say. Why would you suggest it? Why should the other person have to decode this as a "nice thing to say but not meant literally" if you could say a hundred other things that could be meant literally and are still nice, like "see you around" or something like that?

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It's the whims of emotion - in the moment a person says it it can be quite sincere, as that's their genuine mood in that instance, but later on the mood passes and the effort involved in arranging something outweighs the desire.

In that sense it does communicate something: I like and have enjoyed your company in this moment.

Flippant of course, but not too dastardly.

Maybe Germans are emotionally more stable to know that the statement will hold true in the future, when they say it now.
I think that some people are missing a layer of abstraction and they cannot tell whether they want to have a coffee or not until they actually start planning it, and once they are in that mental zone, they assess how they feel about things.

This gets mixed up with the whole dance "I want to measure how much you care about having a coffee with me". We're social creatures so negotiation of your position in the hierarchy is very fucking important. You invite to a coffee someone who's from the same or higher social class. You accept invitations from the same or higher social class. Stronger signal "I really want to have a coffee with you" corresponds with bigger difference in hierarchy. Your goal is to game the system so that you're at the top - everyone invites you for a coffee, you decline all invitations. Actually meeting for a coffee is basically failure of diplomacy. People are subconsciously, without any awareness at all, creating very elaborate strategies to this game.

Where I come from it's almost always considered sincere and I would think it would apply for mos of the Europe where we don't greet each other "how are you" without being interested in the actual answer like certain orange crazies voting nation.

Personally I thought the 6th question about the rules was the most German one, sticking to the rules no matter what (that would be actually the least Chinese one, where rules are made up just to exist, but not to enforce).

Struggled most with last two questions, too many correct options to answer.

German -33% Autistic -36%

Apparently: "You probably ended up here through social media, which means someone you follow scored either Both or German. They sent it to you as a question or a joke. You are their control group."

> If you are the one to follow up, they'd join you.

I get this. I don't want to be imposing myself, and I want to give the person an out if they don't want to meet me.

But I also want them to know that I would be up for having a coffee.

That was the one I struggled the most with.

I generally mean social invitations sincerely, and expect that other people do too, but also my social anxiety leaves me somewhat relieved if we don't follow through.

Also, the Kaffeklatsch is at 3pm, there's no need to discuss a time for it.