[nharada]

Saying nothing about the actual performance of this model, it does strike me how .... minimal(?) this announcement is. Their safety section is like 2 paragraphs about bioweapons. Go look at the reports for OpenAI and Anthropic's model releases. It's like 50+ pages of tests, examples, reports, and benchmarks across a bunch of safety and wellfare metrics.

If Meta wants to be seen as a cutting edge massive lab they need to come across as one instead of looking like a school project version of a frontier model.

[WarmWash]

Rumor on the ground is that they expected a much stronger model than this one.

[levocardia]

Funny contrast with Anthropic. Ant does a "hero run," gets a model much more powerful than they expect. Meta does a hero run, gets a model much more mediocre than they expect. Read into this what you will, I guess?

[nubg]

Can you elaborate?

[WarmWash]

That's it. It's just a rumor. A model, which I don't even know of it's this one specifically, fell short of expectations. This rumor came up around mid March.

[htrp]

llama4 behemoth problems?