[caminante]

Israel won't get sainthood anytime soon, but Hezbollah is Iran-backed, based in Lebanon, and breaking ceasefires with Israel without direct provocation. Israel has killed over a thousand Hezbollah militants since March 2.

What would you do if you were Israel?

FTA:

> Over 1,500 people have been killed in Lebanon and about a million displaced since March 2, according to Lebanese authorities. The IDF says it has killed some 1,100 Hezbollah operatives, including hundreds of members of the terror group’s elite Radwan Force, in that period.

[drewbeck]

Israel kills people then calls them "operatives" after the fact. They have no credibility around these kinds of reports.

[caminante]

I get your point. I don't think it's effective here.

What do you have to say to Hezbollah confirming 400 combatant losses? The Lebanese health ministry also confirmed 1500, of which only 300 were women, children, and health workers.

It's a tragedy.

[bigyabai]

> What would you do if you were Israel?

Stop pretending like collective punishment produces results? It obviously doesn't, Israel's strikes on Lebanon have gotten to the point that it feels like another illegal expansion project.

[MotiBanana]

You're right, they should just let indiscriminate rockets hit their civilians. If it was not for the iron some, there would be 100k dead Israelis. It's disgusting how westerners think their high and mighty approach works in the middle east.

[bigyabai]

Israel was never forced to commit war crimes in retaliation. If they truly want peace, they should submit to the ICC or prepare to fight the long war.

[komali2]

Blowback. Israel is responsible for being an impossible neighbor.

A better question to ask: what do you do when an ethnosupremacist state sets up shop near you and immediately begins territory expansion and meddling in your local politics while funding militant groups to destabilize your government? That's the question all of Israel's neighbors have had to answer for the last 60 years.

[caminante]

>impossible neighbor

The entire neighborhood sucks.

Doesn't this also apply to Hezbollah in Lebanon?

> "[Hezbollah's] struggle will end only when this entity [Israel] is obliterated" [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah#Attitudes_and_action...

[komali2]

The entire neighborhood was already there, and then Israel showed up as a settler-colonialist state.

I don't really sympathize with any State's desire for self preservation (especially since, like Israel, most states will happily sacrifice their citizenry to do so).

The radicalization necessary to feed recruitment to Hamas and Hezbollah is only possible because of the incredible violence Israel subjects the region to. Without Israel, Hamas would almost certainly not even exist, or at least would be some minor radical group with no political power.

[caminante]

Your argument isn't principled because starting in the 20th century is arbitrary. Why not go back in time to the 15-1600s when the Ottoman Empire went "colonial" on Jews?

We don't have a time machine.

In the present, Israel could go full pacifist, and Hezbollah doesn't go away.