[rednb]

I know my use case and my personal experience :) i am not trying to pretend that it is the best in benchmarks, just sharing my experience so people know that some folks are having a very good experience with GLM models, compared to the competition.

My only goal is to encourage people to try it out so they can see if it moves the needle for them, because there are fair chances that it will. I am not trying to start a flamewar or something.

[WhitneyLand]

It’s not a flame war, and you’re not just sharing your experience and encouraging others to try it out.

You’re making a claim, and I’m pointing out that it’s unsubstantiated and not consistent with any other source of data, including that internal to the company that makes the model.

I hope you can see that that’s different than saying it’s worked well for me

[rednb]

Sometimes we STEM folks are way too rigid, I obviously meant "IN MY OPINION, GLM models are at this point superior to...".

I do not think that anyone who read my comment understood it differently. But I grant you this point, this is just my opinion based on my personal experience not the result of a scientific study.

Once this is said, i wasn't submitting a scientific paper for preprint, just posting my opinion on an internet forum.

Not sure why you are making such a big deal out of it, especially for something for which people can decide within minutes if it works for them or not. And I haven't seen you nitpick on other people saying that all Chinese models are garbage incapable of doing even the most basic task, without quoting any study. This kind of scrutiny tends to be one-sided.

Edit: and regarding what the z.ai team is saying about their models, just check their Discord and the articles they link there. They themselves say that their latest models have leading performance on a number of aspects. It is misleading to suggest that the authors of the model are not proudly saying that their models have best in class performance.

[elzbardico]

FWIW, my experience is the same. Paired with opencode it has been excellent to me.