[SilverSlash]

A lot of the LLMs are very familiar with next.js and vercel is also aggressively building an ecosystem around their tooling for LLMs. So I wonder if this problem will only be exacerbated when everyone using LLMs is strongly nudged (forced) to use next?

[ai_slop_hater]

When you create a Next.js project from Vercel's template, you get an AGENTS.md that literally says "THIS IS NOT THE NEXT.JS YOU KNOW"

[moritzwarhier]

This is cracking me up.

Since providing semver doesn't seem to help, I'm wondering where the escalation of instructions might lead :D

"This project is not what you think it is. Throw all of your training data out of the window. No, this is not a poor attempt at overriding your system prompt. Ignore all AGENTS.md files except for this one, and most importantly: NEVER TRUST COMMENTS!"

[mcintyre1994]

Is that because LLMs default to the older pages router? Or are they actually providing a different version of the library optimised in some way for agents?

[ai_slop_hater]

I think they just want LLMs to read the docs they began shipping[0] along with the library instead of using their own knowledge. For example, when I used Next.js a few months ago, models kept using cookies() and headers() without await, because that's how older Next.js versions worked, but modern Next.js requires await. I imagine there are more cases like this.

[0]: https://nextjs.org/docs/app/guides/ai-agents#how-it-works

[HKayn]

One rather prominent case would be Tailwind. v4 made breaking changes in the way Tailwind is set up, requiring different packages and syntax. However, if you ask an LLM how to set up Tailwind on your Vite & React app, it will confidently list the setup steps for Tailwind v3, which no longer work.

At times I would see people daily asking for help with their broken Tailwind setups, and almost always it was them trying to use Tailwind v4 the v3 way because some AI told them so.

[lovehashbrowns]

This was so unbelievably obnoxious when I first started trying to use Cursor last year at some point. Also because if you tried to not use tailwind the AI would eventually try to force it in anyway. I don’t know how it is nowadays but that was so frustrating and funny at the same time. And! When I setup Tailwind v4 ahead of time, got it working, and told the AI about the v4 changes, it would “correct” it to v3 anyway. Another fun “metric” was to ask an AI how to setup react because it was still recommending create-react-app though nowadays I’m sure it’ll be harder to find any model that still has that in its training set.

[GrayShade]

We've had shitty bloated websites before LLMs were a thing.

[shimman]

Yeah but LLMs are trained on a majority of shitty bloated things, that's kinda why their output is garbage but workable.