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by nesarkvechnep 64 days ago
Reading the comments, it looks like some people dismiss IPv6 just because they need to sit down and learn a couple of new things.
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Yeah, it's always the same with IPv6 discussions. The main points being:

  1. IPv6 addresses are too long to remember
  2. IPv6 doesn't need NAT and people are uncomfortable with their devices having a public address as they see NAT as an additional layer of security
If someone is still using the “remembering IP addresses” argument in 2026 (or at any point in the 21st century), I question their technical competence in configuring a network correctly.
It also seems to be a learning curve thing because IPv6 addresses have their own versions of memorable mnemonics. If you are in a LAN space manually configuring LAN addresses, you just need to remember one of the local address (ULA) prefixes like fc00 and then start numbering your devices as ::1 and incrementing (fc::1, fc::2, fc::3, etc). But also in LAN spaces you could just rely on mDNS (devicename.local), it's gotten quite good in most OSes today.

If you need to remember random WAN IPv6 addresses without being able to use DNS or at least a hosts file you've probably got a bunch of other more pressing problems.

I dismiss IPv6 because my ISP doesn't support it.
I dismiss ISPs that don't support IPv6.
> I dismiss ISPs that don't support IPv6.

Hey, how awesome you live in an area where you have a choice of ISPs and can dismiss one that doesn't meet your spec, rather than having to simply shut up and eat what you're served!

I should dismiss my ISP that's worked for something like 20 years, works now, and will in all likelyhood still be working in 20 years (baring M&A nonsense or the apocalypse)?

Sorry, IPv6 is absolutely not the hill I'm going to die on.

If it doesn't support IPv6 it doesn't work.
My experience, indeed reality, says different for all values of "work" that matter to me.
My point is it's your vote against billions of others. My guess is "but what about kjs3's ISP" isn't a bullet point on the rollout list.
I'm not signing up for a new contract with a different company to get the same speeds at higher price and IPv6 that is pretty much useless as many major websites don't even work with it. It will take at least another 15 years before I will consider using IPv6 at home.
Not only that, but not everyone will even have any other choices. The last apartment I was in literally only had one ISP option; I literally would check every six months or so with other ISPs that were in the area because of the fairly frequent outages, and every time they all said that they couldn't offer me service at my address. (This didn't stop them from filling my mailbox with spam all the time though of course). This was in New York (the city), so it's not like there weren't half a dozen other ISPs operating within a few blocks of me.

I can't take seriously the claim that someone would literally refuse to move into an apartment purely on the basis of not having IPv6 support. Bad internet in general? Sure, that's plausible; I work from home, and like I said, the outages were annoying, and if there were no decent speed options my (now) wife and I might have ruled it out? But literally just the lack of IPv6? That's an absurd reason to pick another place to live entirely.

any idea why no one else could service the building? Ive usually had option of verizon or optimum when ive rented, though my experience has been queens and long island
Optimum was the one option we had. This was in Brooklyn (Park Slope specifically, so pretty high density). My vague understanding is that Verizon wasn't hooked up to the building, but I have no idea why that would be. I only wish they managed to recognize that when sending out advertisements.