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by baq 71 days ago
$2M/ship is $100B/year at pre-war crossing rates.
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For reference: This would almost triple their govts funds each year. One must also not forget that they're able to raise tolls in the future, both for monetary investment but also for negotiation purposes.
So we spent a ton of money and a bunch of people died to negotiate a much worse situation.

5D chess!

Making outrageous demands is normal in these negotiations. You can just look at what Hamas demanded during the ceasefires. What usually happens is no strong concessions from either side and hostilities just end. The regimes get to survive just in a badly degraded state.

Most importantly Iran can't afford to keep the strait closed to enforce this. If they block shipping their own will be blocked as well - which hasn't yet happened, they were still allowed to ship oil. Iran was already in terrible financial shape before the war and they aren't negotiating from a strong position of power to take those risks.

> Most importantly Iran can't afford to keep the strait closed to enforce this. If they block shipping their own will be blocked as well - which hasn't yet happened, they were still allowed to ship oil.

Why do you say this? During the war they set up a checkpoint system so their ships and ships they allowed to pass could still pass through.

Of course Iran wouldn't block its own ships at its own checkpoints, but the US is capable of easily interdicting Iranian shipping if it wants to.
this would be a worse crisis than we've just had; it'd put China (if not all of Asia) directly against the USA and would put Australia in a very peculiar spot.
Is that an argument for them not being to enforce the ayatollbooth or its price to remain reasonnable ?
good for them, hopfeully they will be able to better protect themseves from rogue nations that don't respect international laws.
We‘re still talking about the largest funding nation of terror cells mate
Who enforces "international laws" anyway?
Not quite, since they plan to share the revenue with Oman, or at least that’s what they’re currently claiming.
Trump cancelled the Iran deal, replaced it with nothing and now Iran has found an infinite money glitch.
100B/Year

How are they spinning this, that it is not Reparations?

"10. Iran to use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations"

What is the splitting of hairs here?

I think reparations could be spent as they see fit. Reconstruction implies the money is going to exactly that.

But I agree it's a weird nitpick at this stage, as it seems almost impossible to verify once in place

No, the point is that instead of the US paying reparations from their own pocket they will allow Iran to tax Gulf countries.

That sentence is just worded badly, I would rewrite it as:

10. Iran to use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of demanding reparations from the US.

I think you're right, it's a bracketing ambiguity.

Rather than "Iran to use Hormuz fees for (reconstruction instead of reparations)" it's more likely to mean "Iran to use (Hormuz fees for reconstruction) instead of reparations"

Yeah, I think they want to do it this way, because Iran wants some compensation for damages, but paying reparations directly would be too humiliating for the US, and Trump would never agree to it.
Nice. I wonder what the costs of reparations would be if the ceasefire were to end the war?
I’m 99% sure that if there is a deal where Iran collects a toll, it’s going to involve counting that toll (and/or sanctions relief, and/or unfreezing Iranian assets) as reparations. I would be very surprised if the US or Israel ever agree to direct payments to the Iranian government.
Truly an Art of the Deal - make countries that didn't choose to attack Iran... Pay for reparations.

With friends like Uncle Sam, who needs enemies?

Soon the dubai influencers will flock to Teheran.