[archagon]

I gotta say, that's really fucked up. Like, I'm Russian, I hate what Russia is doing, I think support for Putin in Russia is far higher than it has any right to be, but I'd never casually throw out a "bomb them all, they're all complicit." I think people with these sorts of opinions need therapy.

[throwawayheui57]

The other side (regime) publicly state “execute them all” and the response is “bomb them all”. To be clear, I’m not agreeing with the sentiments and agree that bombing the infrastructure is awful, just stating my observation of the state media vs opposition voices.

[gryzzly]

even Putin’s FSB with all its arbitrary arrests and torture in jail is very very far away from public lashing and hangings, from using actual children in real fighting (beyond kindergartens dressed as tanks which is disgusting but different than sending kids to demine fields or be used as human shields). The scale of torture and jailing is also different with Iran probably being closer to Stalin’s 1937.

[RiverStone]

I think that makes sense.

My impression is that Iran is much closer to a civil war than Russia is. It’s very polarized.

You have to put yourself in the mindset of someone against the regime. They feel that their country was hijacked by an islamic theocracy.

This is a regime that forces little girls to cover their body. Dancing and singing in public is illegal. Protesters are hanged.

My wife was sent home from school as a kid because her headband didn’t properly cover her forehead. At the age of 30 my wife still has trouble wearing shorts because she is self-conscious about showing her legs.

This is the kind of mental trauma that women have to recover from after leaving Iran. And I’ve only skimmed the surface.

There is zero sympathy from the anti-regime side for those who support the theocracy.

[gwd]

> At the age of 30 my wife still has trouble wearing shorts because she is self-conscious about showing her legs.

Just as an extra data point: I (a man) still feel weird about going running with a tank-top, because nearly 3 decades ago at a gym in Turkey I was politely asked to cover my shoulders.

I'm sure she and other Iranians have endured far far worse; my only point is that "Is uncomfortable showing skin" isn't necessarily evidence of that, as it doesn't necessarily take much to trigger.

[RiverStone]

I get what you’re saying, but if you’ve ever met someone who has grown up in an extremely religious environment, then you know what I mean.

Inculcating into young girls (and boys to some degree) that their bodies are shameful, sex is shameful, hell is real and waiting for them if they disobey, causes lifelong mental trauma.

It’s not unique to Islam. I’m sure there are extreme versions of Christianity and Judaism that also make women feel ashamed of their bodies.