[stanislavb]

Israel is already breaking the ceasefire conditions. Ref: "Netanyahu: Ceasefire doesn’t cover Lebanon" https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-cease...

[throwworhtthrow]

Israel violated the 2024 ceasefire over 10,000 times [0], not counting all the ones since Feb. 28. I guess this time they're not satisfied with having only 50 "freebies" a day.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon_ce...

[ra]

Have Israel ever respected a ceasefire?

[SirFatty]

Has Hamas or Hezbollah?

[ChoGGi]

You seem to be implying Israel is no better than a terrorist group.

[stanfordkid]

Not only is it no better, it is significantly worse.

[_DeadFred_]

Hamas is the (originally elected by the people) government of Gaza. Hezbollah is a partner of and inside Lebanon's government.

In addition, both parties are who Israel was nominally in a ceasefire with. So extremely relevant to the discussion about Israel and ceasefires and not random whataboutism.

You seem to be implying discussion should be waived away if a counter party is both a government and a terrorist organization.

[ChoGGi]

Not sure why you're replying to me?

I'm not the one comparing Israel, Hamas, and Hezbollah.

Though next time I'll put terrorist group in quotes, as everyone has their own opinion.

[komali2]

Less times than Israel, and usually in response.

Israel has done more terrorism than Hamas.

[batisteo]

Not only that, but Israel financed Hamas to politically destabilize Palestine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas

[arbitrary_name]

why is that relevant? Israel is a nation state, the others are 'terrorist groups'. are they equivalent? your response seems to imply that.

Interesting.

[cnd78A]

Israel is not a nation state but a western colony in Palestine (like Tibet is a Chinese colony, or Algeria was for france).

[_DeadFred_]

Hamas is the government in Gaza who the ceasefire was with and whose acts it was contingent on.

Hezbollah is part of the government in Lebanon and who the ceasefire was with and whose acts in was contingent on.

The relevance is pretty obvious.

'why are do you want to include both sides (including the actual governments on both sides) in a discussion about ceasefire' is a wild take.

[aaa_aaa]

They have a far better track record. The other side constantly lies and violates every rule.

[umanwizard]

Yes

[igleria]

Textbook whataboutism.

[SirFatty]

Israel would not be doing this if not for the continuous attacks from those jihadist groups (well funded by Iran). But you know that.

[bigyabai]

The Nakba was not provoked by jihadist groups, it was provoked by colonial invaders. The victimization narrative never worked.

[cooloo]

Ceasefire include removing Hizballa from Lebanon, but facts doesn't matter for terror supporters

[outside1234]

Territorial expansion was probably always Israel's goal of this, with a bonus of weakening a regional rival.

[zorobo]

In the 75 years of their existence it seems like they suck at expansion.

They should take a page from Indonesia’s book for example. Or turkey.

[oblio]

Indonesia?

[zorobo]

Takeover of half of Papua New Guinea, now called irian Jaya. Transmigration, that is, moving Java people there and to Borneo (Kalimantan)in order to flood local populations with Malays.

But this did not make the news that much. Not that interesting I guess…

[RA_Fisher]

They’ll probably receive most if not all of Iran’s focus now.