[peder]

Exactly, but Hacker News is upvoting this because it wants the US to be seen as the loser of this conflict.

Both sides in a conflict (or any negotiation) make demands that they know the other will not accept. You can't just take someone's list like that and assume that'll be the exact outcome.

[cosmicgadget]

Oftentimes ceasefires have agreed-upon terms.

[AnimalMuppet]

As does this one. The 10 points aren't the agreed-upon terms, though. The agreed-upon terms are: stop bombing for two weeks, and open the straits for two weeks.

[cosmicgadget]

Does Iran acknowledge the second one or do they believe they are the toll takers of the strait?

[AnimalMuppet]

Good question! And I don't know the answer. "Reopen the strait", but I haven't noted whether it's with or without toll for the two weeks.

[firetruck]

hackers are often leftwing sweaty tryhards, obviously not all of them ;) but whatever, let them suck on those circumsized penis while the local paki rape gangs rule the streets of europe.