[creata]

> The only practical defense is for these frontier models

Another practical defence for many of these devices would be to just disconnect them... I feel like an old man yelling at a cloud, but too much is connected to the Internet these days.

[Normal_gaussian]

It can be easier to hack the device and patch it than determine which device it is. This is nearly always true for the non-technical, but it is true for most technical people as well. Many of the devices in peoples homes that aren't being actively patched are not that old!

[halJordan]

Why doesn't this atm tell me my balance anymore? Oh we implemented creata's advice

Why didn't this smartboard tell me my plane was delayed? Oh we implemented creata's advice

ad nauseum