[stronglikedan]

> I've gotten way further than I would have otherwise at this pace, but it was still a lot of effort, and I still wasted time going down rabbit holes on features that didn't work out.

By the time I'm done learning about the structure of the code that AI wrote, and reviewing it for correctness and completeness, it seems to be as much effort as if I had just written it myself. And I fear that will continue to be the reality until AIs can be trusted.

[edgyquant]

Well that is not how anyone is doing agentic coding though. That sounds like just a worse version of traditional coding. Most people are building test suites to verify correctness and not caring about the code

[skydhash]

Test suites don't verify correctness. They just ensure that you haven't broke something so bad the specific instances that the tests assert have turned into a failure. You can have a factorial function and more likely the test cases will only be a few numbers. Which does not guarantee correctness as someone who know about the test cases can just put a switch and return the correct response for those specific cases.

The compromise is worth it in traditional coding, because someone will care about the implementation. The test cases are more like the canary in the coal mine. A failure warrants investigations but an all green is not a guarantee of success.

[edgyquant]

Regardless that is why most people are moving faster than writing by hand

[skydhash]

Moving faster towards what? The biggest diff? The most tickets closed? Or a working software?

[edgyquant]

Working software/new features.