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by tomwojcik 75 days ago
I can't believe that's where we're at, as software devs. I miss predictable outputs, state machines. All those LLM (prompt) based rules make no sense to me. Same with AI WAL. All of it, at some point, will fail.
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I present a new name for this - FAKE CODE.

This is simply the next iteration of FAKE NEWS. We have been steadily democratizing and thus lowering the verification standards:

Verified News (AP/Reuters) --> Opinion pieces (Fox/CNN) --> Social media (Tiktok/Youtube).

Verified Code --> Vibe Code

Democracy gave everyone a vote - was that a good thing ?

Social media gave everyone a visual - was that a good thing ?

AI gave everyone a vibe - was that a good thing ?

The trust factor never went away. It just got dispersed and diluted.

> I can't believe that's where we're at, as software devs

Agree wholeheartedly.

The premise of the bug did not make any sense to me. For instance, "unusable for complex engineering tasks", why would someone who understands these tools use them for complex engineering tasks ? Also, this phrase in the bug appears too jargon-ny "Extended Thinking Is Load-Bearing for Senior Engineering Workflows" - what does this even mean ? Am I the only one who is looking at this with bewilderment. I think there is group of folks producing almost-working proof of concept code with these tools, and will face a reckoning at some point - as the bug illustrates. I see this as a storm in a teacup with wonder and amusement.

There is also a larger commentary on: when you dont understand why things work (ie, have a causal model), you wont know why they broke (find root causes). We are at a point in our craft where we throw magic dust and chant spells at claude and hope and pray it works.

Yeah that. After spending years trying to get reproducible builds, I now have a crazy moving target to deal with.
It's hard not to feel deeply depressed by it.

But we can't put the genie back in the bottle.