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by cyberlimerence 72 days ago
Beautiful work, I love fantasy cartography. Someday I actually want to make some maps of my own, I was thinking of ASOIAF. A slightly off-topic question, are these types of maps legal to sell from copyright point of view? I understand that this is quite a niche product, so maybe I'm overthinking it, but do these count as derivative works ?
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PokemonNoGo 72 days ago
I had the same thought. Not bashing their work I am genuinely curios.

For this specific case I was suprised to see they have a dedicated website for such questions! So I guess it is quite common.... (They seem very serious about it since i couldn't even mark the text to copy it here! )

>Tolkien’s original drawings, paintings, maps, designs, scripts and other graphic works are protected by copyright and may not be copied. The Tolkien Estate takes action against parties who try to commercialise Tolkien’s works, including maps of Middle-earth, the One Ring Inscription and other images.

[0] https://www.tolkienestate.com/frequently-asked-questions-and...

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bombcar 72 days ago
The key is that the original maps are copyrighted, and direct derivatives may fall under that, too - but the general information cannot be copyrighted (at least in the USA).

You could make a freeway map of Eriador, for example.

And see all the "unofficial" books around Minecraft or Harry Potter (or lord of the rings): https://www.amazon.com/s?k=unofficial+lord+of+the+rings

And maps "in the style" of Tolkien but covering the real world or other properties are likely entirely fine.

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egypturnash 72 days ago
Don’t forget trademarks, even if your maps are drawn completely from scratch then I am sure whoever has the license for selling maps of A Song Of Ice And Fire (TM) will take issue with you presenting them as such, if your business becomes large enough for them to bother noticing you.
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vslira 71 days ago
I think this might depend on where you intend to sell them. I think in life plus 50 countries (Egypt, China, many others) it should be out of copyright already. IANAL, so consult one before doing anything.
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