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by j-kent 69 days ago
Same goes with Starship Troopers - Clearly biting satire, but at the time was considered to be a dumb action movie by most.
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I watched this movie as a teenager and I did miss the satire (although I could see something was off and there was a message beyond the action).

It's a bit the opposite of "don't look up" in that sense that the message isn't in your face. But in the current times, this movie really resonates.

it was a dumb action movie, with a bit of satire and some non-trivial nudity.

the book is a political science treatise about the role of the citizen in government and draws heavily from Thomas Hobbes and Max Weber, basically invented the "space marine" concept that we see in 40k or Starcraft or Doom, and touched on things like haptic feedback and non-traditional UI and how it could be C2.

The nudity is also part of the point. American will heavily restrict movies with nudity or swear words, but see far less problems with showing gore and violence on screen to youngsters.

Seen from Europe (Verhoeven is Dutch), this is completely deranged.

It's primarily a movie about fascism and propaganda. The fact that most viewers missed it is actually concerning.
Both are very valued in the USA
Every country values its own propaganda and national myths.

It's just that some countries coalesce around ones that are somewhat less... Blatantly offensive to thinking people.

I thought it was just the opposite: people recognized it as satire but what they really wanted was the dumb action movie. Spare us the social commentary and show us some power armor with jump jets.