[bjoli]

Iran doesnt have the defensive capabilities needed tomproperly defend their airspace, so their plan was to make it hurt if they were attacked.

The fact that the US seemed surprised they shut down the strait is such an immense intelligence failure.

If anyone by this point think there will be any meaningful change in Iranian society that won't be shoved down their throats imperialist style, they shouldn't be in politics or military intelligence. They should be selling pencils from a cup.

Whatever aims the US had with this illegal war, we should all admit they are a lost cause.

Unless the US allows for immense civilian suffering, I think Iran will outlast any US political patience for this war

[scotty79]

> immense intelligence failure

There's a singular failure point. Trump was properly informed and just said "nah, they are gonna collapse before they do it".

[red-iron-pine]

it is almost certain that Trump never even saw the intelligence.

it is also almost certain that Bannon or Stephen Miller or whoever his Trump's Russian handler -- wildly thought to be Melania until he got elected -- is also telling him what to think.

given that it is reported he literally has off the record calls with Putin, it is entirely possible that his handler is literally Putin himself at this point

[scotty79]

That would require presence of conspiracy (which I don't doubt) with coordination and consistency (which I totally doubt).

While my explanation requires just one idiot who likes to disregard input. Which is self-evidently true.