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by jablongo 72 days ago
For me, the attempted productization of Sora was conclusive proof that 1) OAI was overcapitalized and desperate for revenue 2) safety didn't matter to them much 3) improving the world didn't matter much either.

At one point you mentioned an interaction with OpenAI staff where you were looking to interview AI Safety researchers. You were rebuffed b/c "existential safety isn't a thing". Does this mean that you could find no evidence of a AI Safety team at OAI after Jan Leike left? If you look at job postings it does seem like they have significant safety staff...
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hirako2000 72 days ago
Interestingly we are still experiencing the technological momentum inspired and created by what OpenAI used to be. AI for humanity.

Given the initiative started circa 2017, much of the goods remain. It's a hijack of creative geniuses who got together, which is now turning into cow milking tech.

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andrekandre 71 days ago 

  > cow milking tech
i mean, in the end, cow-milking is the name of the game isnt it?
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hirako2000 71 days ago
Yes if it played that game at the start.

That's the name of a different game.

OpenAI played the charity, coupled with a powerful altruistic card.

It didn't say: we believe a more effective for-profit business shall start as a non-profit in this field, because it would yield innovation which we can then skim money off down the road. That would have been transparent.

Not saying it was the intention at the start. But they flipped the game at some point. Let's play Chess, it's a better game. Oh I decided we are now playing Checkers, sorry, I won.

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andrekandre 70 days ago 

  > But they flipped the game at some point.
yes, agree.

i guess my (too nuance maybe) point was: the system we live in is like water; the urge to swim with the big fish is overwhelming... it was gonna happen eventually at the level they are playing at.

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