[Gud]

It is absolutely true. The USA has a history of making shit up, kill some million(s) of people, steal their oil.

The only difference is that Donald Trump doesn’t care about plausible deniability at all, unlike previous presidents,which is why the American public remembers (the demons) George Bush neutral or slightly positive. They should both have died in prison.

[_kulang]

This is an extremely popular view that recently has been disseminated and while based on fact, is emotional propaganda. It basically exists as a justification for Trump’ and this administrations actions, along the lines of “they’ve always done it, at least we don’t hide it” and gives them a combination of legitimacy and a strange sense of “doing the right thing”.

I understand that it’s true that the USA has been problematic in the past but in this case, the story being sold to people about the US “always” having been bad exists to convince people that there is no other way, and you either have to accept it or tear it all down. Interestingly both benefit the current administration

[Gud]

No, this is not “propaganda “ to justify anything Trump is up to.

The USA has not been “problematic”, it has enforced a particular ideology on the world with the rest of us unwilling participants.

The USA has repeatedly overthrown diplomatically elected leaders(Iran ironically being the best example, a democratic government toppled because it was stopping American business interests and democratising its oil resources) so the USAs ownership class can make their fortunes.

Sometimes , it has stopped elections, exterminated millions, set their villages on fire, because the people were picking the wrong ideology.

Remove your rose tinted glasses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

[estearum]

Yes those are all bad and you are naive if you think a USA that relishes brutality could not or would not be 1000x worse.

Militarily, the US can trivially eradicate entire countries. It is “only” our leadership and their sense of morals (imperfect and spotty as they are) that prevents this.

[Gud]

You believe a USA run amok will last long? I doubt it.

[estearum]

A USA run amok for a mere 4 days can literally end human civilization as we know it. One sentence uttered from the mouth of a contemporary POTUS can make the atrocities of WW2, Vietnam, OEF, OIF all look like charity projects.

Your equivocation is beyond naive.

[Gud]

Many countries can do this? Pakistan, France. What is the relevance?