[dataflow]

> No, BE is logical because it puts bits and bytes in the same order.

This sounds confused. The "order" of bits is only an artifact of our human notation, not some inherent order. If you look at how an integer is implemented in hardware (say in a register or in combinational logic), you're not going to find the bits being reversed every byte.

[yjftsjthsd-h]

Okay, if you get everyone to write bits the other way I'll endorse LE as intuitive/logical. Until then, I want my bits and bytes notated uniformly.

[dataflow]

> Okay, if you get everyone to write bits the other way I'll endorse LE as intuitive/logical.

You're still confused, unfortunately. (Note: In everything that follows, I'm just pretending "Arabic numerals" came from Arabic. The actual history is more complicated but irrelevant to my point, so let's go with that.)

First, you're confusing intuitive with logical. They are not the same thing. e.g, survivorship bias (look up the whole WWII plane thing) is unintuitive, but extremely logical.

Second, even arguing intuitiveness here doesn't really make sense, because the direction of writing numerals is itself intrinsically arbitrary. If our writing system was such that a million dollars was written as "000,000,1$", suddenly you wouldn't find big-endian any more intuitive.

In fact, if you were an Arabic speaker and your computer was in Arabic (right to left) rather than English (left to right), then your hex editor would display right-to-left on the screen, and you would already find little-endian intuitive!

In other words, the only reason you find this unintuitive is that you speak English, which is (by unfortunate historical luck) written in "big-endian" form! Note that this has nothing to do with being right-to-left but left-to-right, but rather with whether the place values increase or decrease in the same direction as the prose. In Arabic, place values increase in the direction of the prose, which makes little-endian entirely intuitive to an Arabic speaker!

To put it another way, arguing LE is unintuitive is like claiming something being right-handed is somehow more intuitive than left-handed. If that's true, it's because you're used to being right-handed, not because right-handedness itself is somehow genuinely more intuitive. (And neither of these has anything to do with one being more or less logical than the other.)

[userbinator]

Until then, I want my bits and bytes notated uniformly.

AFAIK it was only IBM whose CPUs were consistently BE for both bit and byte order (i.e. bit 0 is also the most significant bit.) Every other CPU which is BE for bytes is still LE for bits (bit 0 least significant.)