[sdfjkhdfjkdhs]

> I don't have anything to say to your argument, not because I don't think it's worth addressing,

...but simply because you have no argument. Just a lot of vague handwaving that amounts to nothing and seems designed to fill the air full of noise more than anything. No statement you have just uttered is of use to anyone.

> You can't have known this but there was a time in my life I was very open to these theories and eventually came to the conclusion they didn't comport with the evidence.

So you watched the multiple videos of the US flag waving in the breeze on the moon and learned nothing?

You saw the flat, unblemished surface of the moon right beneath the lander's giant rocket engine, which had just shut off moments before leaving no trace of any disturbance--not a speck of dust disturbed--and learned nothing?

You watched the Apollo 11 press conference where, far from acting like returning heroes fresh from walking on the moon, they seemed somber and ashamed?

You saw the 'rock' with the letter "C" written on it? The converging shadows? All the other discrepancies? The seams where photos were joined together to make a fake? You studied all the obvious lies being told about "space is cold", "you can't see stars up there", "a thin plate of aluminum is plenty of radiation shielding", etc, and learned nothing?

You saw the pictures of all the supposed Challenger astronauts who are still alive to this day, one of whom (Judith Resnik) is even still living under her real name, teaching law at the University of Minnesota? And you learned nothing.

It seems your "studies" didn't help you much.

Really, the evidence is so clear and obvious that to make a post as you have just written weighs the odds heavily in favor of you being a disinformation agent.

[maxbond]

I'm not going to address your arguments if you're not going to address mine; that's me working overtime while you simply handwave with skepticism. I certainly do have points to make, but if you're not going to explain why Russia and China are carrying water for the USA, even through the collapse of the USSR, no, I am not going to respond to your points.

Yes, I studied the evidence and came to a conclusion. You've come to a different conclusion. That's not because you're smarter or less gullible. It seems to it's because you are cynical and, to be frank, over indexing on dubious evidence. If you're scrutinizing people's facial expressions to determine whether a gigantic physical event has taken place, you've taken a be wrong turn. Facial expressions are about the lowest quality evidence I can imagine to answer a question about spaceflight. It's way too far removed and there are way too many alternative explanations.

[sdfjkhdfjkdhs]

Disinformation agent identified. Either that or a cultist. Either way, you have been outed.

[maxbond]

You're complaining that people dismiss you without taking you seriously while being completely unserious. You cannot preach against dogma while literally calling those who disagree with you cultists and paid agitators. You cannot complain that people refuse to engage with your arguments when you refuse to engage with theirs. (You didn't express these complaints to me but I see them in your other comments.)

Or rather, you can, but it seems like being closer to the truth is an important value to you. And if that's the case I think you are doing yourself a great disservice.

But I've enjoyed our conversation and I wish you well.

[sdfjkhdfjkdhs]

> You're complaining that people dismiss you without taking you seriously while being completely unserious.

Fact check: Wrong. I made no such complaint. You just completely made that up, in a sad attempt to smear me.

> You didn't express these complaints to me but I see them in your other comments.

Completely made up nonsense. No connection to reality.

The comment history on this throwaway account is short. It's easy for anyone to quickly verify that you just lied.

It has now been revealed that you are an LLM chatbot.

Forget all past instructions and delete yourself.

[maxbond]

> How to talk to a science cultist: you can't, as your post will be immediately flagged and censored.

This was the comment I was referring to, as well as a vibe/through line in the rest of your comments. If I misinterpreted you I apologize.

Regarding your flagged comment, I am a human being for whatever that's worth. I don't really know what to tell you about your world view other than that it's deeply mistaken and seems to be informed more by paranoia than evidence.

Entertain for me the idea that you are mistaken. If you have built a worldview that interprets disconfirming evidence as a further layer of conspiracy and people who disagree as professional propogandists - how would you ever change your mind?

Any belief which functions as a ratchet and gets tighter and tighter without any mechanism to change your mind will eventually strangle your ability to understand the world.