[phs318u]

Israel is an apartheid regime. Palestinian Israelis are constantly discriminated against and have laws apply differently to them. You could also argue that there’s a significant theocratic element in the Israeli government (resulting from the alliances the corrupt war criminal has had to make to retain power and avoid prosecution). Eretz Yisrael anyone?

I think what a lot of Americans fail to understand is just how galling the rest of the world finds your government’s rank hypocrisy. Your current president and his enablers are mostly considered to be literal madmen. Judging by words, deeds and outcomes it’s hard to defend an opposing view.

[_DeadFred_]

'but Israel' isn't a response on the points I raised other than to say you don't actually care about apartheid regimes/points, they are just convenient talking points for you to justify your position.

[phs318u]

No offence, but you were banging on about the “Shia apartheid regime” and implied (EDIT: spelling) they are a minority when 95% of Iranians are Shia. There is more apartheid in Israel than Iran.

As for theocratic governments, the region is full of them and the biggest (Saudi Arabia) are supported by the US despite their similar practices of theocratic oppression to the Iranian regime (probably more so in SA than Iran), so please spare me the hypocritical handwringing.

[_DeadFred_]

You are wrong 95% of Iranians are not IRCG level Shia, and do not want to be forced to live under Shia rules. Iran assigns someone Shia depending on birth, not depending on the persons actual belief. Like medieval Europe used to do hundreds of years ago. State mandated registering of people at birth does not equal reality. So you believe that assigned/forced religion at birth is just? Is actually representative of people's beliefs?

You are you saying you are OK with Saudi Arabia's behavior then? That is the hypocritical handwringing is am pointing out. The hypocritical people who talked out against Saudi Arabia, against religious favoritism/laws in Israel, people who in the past criticized religion like Rushdie dared to but Iran attempted to murder him for. But things those people now overlook and call Iran their 'ally' in alignment with them.

Is Saudi Arabia good? If not, then how is Iran being the same good? That you can't see I was pointing out the hypocrisy of Iran supporters with my points is wild. They are all things they claim to care about, and would not be accepting of from other nations, but because they like that Iran has attacked the USA/Israel since 1979 they hand waive away as fine. My entire life I was raised with Iranians chanting for death to me as an American (resultantly fundamentally shaping my opinion of Islam), and that policy is what Iranian supporters say supersedes all bad acts Iran commits (excusing Irans regime raping/murdering young girls for not wearing hats, executing by regime numbers 3,000 people on the street over two days, repressive religious theocracy, murder contracts on people like Rushdie who speak negatively about religion).