[defrost]

There's certainly a justified hatred of faux-farmers of convenience such as Clarkson et al.

I suspect that's the hatred being mischaracterised and amplified by the GBNews Farrage crowd.

[secondcoming]

No. It's because farmers sometimes pollute rivers (despite household sewage being pumped into UK rivers daily), want to kill badgers to stop TB spreading, and because they work large areas of land they're obviously wealthy.

[defrost]

Sure, someone always believes such things, .. is that really widespread and a core belief of the "the UK Leftist/Green crowd." ?

The constant observation made about the UK is there's always an excess amplification of what various groups are alleged to believe.

Last I checked, the current King is in the "Leftist/Green" camp and pro-farmer. (by default, he'd be "UK" and not a "crowd" though).

[hermitcrab]

Is there any strong evidence that killing badgers reduces bovine TB?

[hdgvhicv]

To his credit Clarkson has done more form farming with his show than countryfile or the archers has done in decades.

He bought it as a tax break, but I’d leave not ire for “farmers” like the musician and vacuum cleaner salesman.

Nothing caused me to laugh more at the “woe is the millionaire march” than seeing Lloyd Webber and his dog out on the march.

[defrost]

> vacuum cleaner salesman.

Dyson? Sure - he seems performative (from afar, I'm antipodean to this BTW) with his industrialised strawberry wheels etc.

> the musician

Lost me .. I'm sure the UK has a few gumbooted millionaire class rockers / composers - I'm guessing that's a throw at the impresario of musical theatre with a life peerage who is rarely seen cutting hay.

I'm not sure I'd class either of those as farmers (by our local understanding), and Clarkson smacks of content farmer cos player more than generationally consistent production farmer .. but perhaps he might get there.

[hdgvhicv]

Andrew Lloyd Webber. Billionaire composer of musicals like cats and phantom. Also a farmer apparently, owning thousands of acres and befitting from the tax breaks and hope value.

They either employ people to farm the land (like Clarkson did I to 2019, and indeed stop does), or rent the land out for a tiny return on investment in the 1-2% range while avoiding the only tax that even attempts to fight against the aristocracy

[defrost]

Sure, land owner .. not farmer, as the term is used here.

[hdgvhicv]

He owns thousands of acres of farmland and benefits from the tax breaks, hence him turning up protesting removing those tax breaks.