[HumanOstrich]

I agree with your sentiment, but I wanted to call out that they've always been just as evil as other big tech companies.

I think their motto of "don't be evil" was some pretty clever PR.

I started questioning it c. 2008 when they ghosted me on resolving an issue with my blogspot site that was a bug in the platform. All I could get was a condescending non-response from a "diamond" volunteer on a forum. They were apparently the gatekeepers to reaching actual support.

[protimewaster]

I definitely don't think they've ever been super nice, but I still they still have a few much more user-friendly approaches than others. E.g., one of the reasons I bought a Pixel is that Google is one of the only phone makers that manages to have respectable security practices and still respects users enough support them choosing to modify the software on their devices and run alternate operating systems.

[roelschroeven]

I think their "Don't be evil" was pretty close to the truth, as much as it can be for large corporations, until around the time Google purchased DoubleClick. That was in 2008, so that seems to match your experience.

[mhitza]

They weren't always evil, not in my opinion.

Back in the day they bought Feedburner, and merged it with their internal equivalent. In that process, my subscriber list was affected. They apologized and even sent out some swag. That was nice, for a small inconvenience at the time.

Today? humans don't even seem to be involved.

[dismalaf]

Disagree. Even with their issues, they're still less evil than MS, Apple and especially Oracle or Meta.

If they didn't have all their issues (discontinuing products, bad customer service) they'd probably be bigger than MS and Apple combined. But here we are.

Also for better or worse, I pay for bundled Google storage + Gemini and YouTube separately, it's still worth it, even without free months or whatever. And still better than being in MS or Apple's ecosystem.

[tartoran]

> it's still worth it, even without free months or whatever

Until you go of the rails of their processes and have your account closed with no recourse.

[dismalaf]

Sometimes I worry about this but everytime I see an example of it I feel better (because most examples involve the person doing weird things).

[HumanOstrich]

> most examples involve the person doing weird things

That doesn't make any sense. There are still plenty of people who are not doing weird things and getting screwed over.

Google fanboys have always fallen for their "don't be evil" nonsense, and it looks like they still are even after it was changed.

[revv00]

The least evil giant might be Yahoo!, although nowadays no one uses their service due to their inability product and tech.

[John23832]

Sounds a lot like Cloudflare at the moment.

[lokar]

Well, the actual phrase came from an engineer.

[mentalgear]

Also, the executives 'retired' the official 'Don't be evil' slogan some time ago. I guess they didn't want to be limited. Seems fitting to the suits.

[lokar]

The finance people and mgmt consultants took over the company from the engineers a while ago.