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by Glawen 69 days ago
How twisted as it sounds, I do believe that the outcome is beneficial to the US. China and EU are weakened by this mess big time. The US will bear costs in the future.

EU does not expect to be paid back for Ukraine, they are paying with their lives and by being a lab for testing weapons and strategies. I'm just flabbedgasted by pro russian europeans thinking it'll be great to live under Putin. It's not like it hasn't been the case already.

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EU aid for Ukraine (yes this is a chatGPT overview):

Ukraine Facility (2024–2027): €33 billion of €50 billion is loans → 66%

MFA+ for 2023: €18 billion, all loans

Exceptional MFA backed by Russian-asset revenues (2024 package): €18.1 billion disbursed so far, loan

New EU package for 2026–2027: €90 billion, loan

Adding those together gives about €159.1 billion in loans out of €176.1 billion, or roughly 90% loans.

Oh, and before you ask, 2 out of 3 are not low-interest loans (only the one where the interest would go to Russia). If you're in France or Germany, your mortgage is cheaper than what Ukraine is paying the EU to defend itself from Russia "with EU help". And, yes, one might even point out that this means that Trump is correct when he says the US has given more to Ukraine than the EU. Given more, loaned (much) less. EU help consists 90% of allowing these loans in the first place.