[jongjong]

What did he do specifically to crater his reputation?

Is it his politics? He seems to have reasonable beliefs there. It's not like he's been supporting Trump unconditionally. He doesn't always agree with Trump. Is it because of his stance in favor of free speech? How is that a bad thing? As someone who doesn't like any side of politics, I don't get it.

[ndsipa_pomu]

Two very public Nazi salutes without any attempt to deny it afterwards will certainly crater anyone's reputation. It's not really politics, but more a question of humanity, but then people don't become billionaires without having a contempt for others and a desire to underpay and mistreat everyone you come into contact with.

[jongjong]

He did deny it multiple times on Twitter/X. Probably your news source of choice is the one which omitted this fact.

I think it probably did look a bit that way and maybe he did it for engagement, maybe he intended to create controversy or maybe it was none of these things. In any case, it wasn't an actual Nazi salute.

[ndsipa_pomu]

> He did deny it multiple times on Twitter/X

That's interesting - have you got a link?

[surgical_fire]

Dude did a Nazi salute and made a speech in support of the neonazi party in Gernany.

I think we got a few steps beyond "reasonable beliefs".

I mean, perhaps it is reasonable for you, but then we will find very little common ground.