[borski]

I ignore the law every day when I jaywalk. Technically, you’re right that that is also breaking the law. I wasn’t being careful with my words.

How and why matters, though.

[TurdF3rguson]

> How and why matters, though.

How and why you break a law matters (to a judge / jury). Whether you frame it as "ignoring" vs "breaking" in your legal defense, not so much.

[borski]

I agree; I attempted to clarify that with my “not using words carefully” but that is a fair criticism of what I wrote.

[jrflowers]

That’s not how words work. This sentence

> I ignore the law every day when I jaywalk.

Means the exact same thing as “I intentionally break jaywalking laws every day”. They are equivalent sentences.

[borski]

I agreed with you; that is why I said I wasn’t being careful with my language.

[jrflowers]

What does that mean

[worik]

> I ignore the law every day when I jaywalk

Not illegal here, but I hope you not complain when caught and fined.

[kaashif]

Jaywalking was illegal in NYC until 2025 but literally every crossing had people doing it constantly. This is not figurative, it actually is literal.

Including people doing it in front of police. Including the police themselves!

The law only existed for police to harass and fine blacks and Latinos. And indeed, that was how it was struck down.

It is critical to a just society that victims of unjust laws or uneven enforcement complain!

[tjwebbnorfolk]

There is a difference between "fake it till you make it" and "blatant widespread fraud", but the line is blurrier than many startups would like to admit.