[peteforde]

I have great news for you: after several years of growing frustration with Espressif's inability to launch this chip properly in NA, I found a company called Wireless Tag that presumably felt the same way and just did it themselves:

https://en.wireless-tag.com/product-item-56.html

I've now used this module in several projects. I love it. And I love (x3) the P4. It is amazingly powerful.

A lot of folks talk about the P4 not having radios as a problem; I personally think that it's an advantage. The assumption that every device is a wifi/BT device is baffling to me.

You'd have a very hard time convincing me to use anything but the WT0132P4-A1 at this point. They are cheaper than ESP32-S3-MINI-1U, too.

[volemo]

> A lot of folks talk about the P4 not having radios as a problem; I personally think that it's an advantage.

I believe, the problem is that there isn't a comparable chip with WiFi/BT (ignoring S3, because, you know, Xtensa), not that P4 itself doesn't have them.

[peteforde]

I don't use these directly myself in any projects, so I'm citing hearsay... but from what I understand, Espressif officially recommends using an ESP32-C6 as a radio module with the P4. Wouldn't that cover it?

What I have seen directly is a lot of folks reacting negatively to the P4 because it doesn't have radios. They seem to be coming from a "what could it possibly be useful for if it can't [wifi/BT]". While it's easy to see this as a failure of imagination, it does seem true that a lot of folks equate the ESP32 line as what you use when you want to create an IoT device. While that's not wrong or necessarily bad, I've always felt like it's a weird way to pigeonhole an entire SoC family that might be self-limiting.