[scarier]

Honestly this isn't something people select for at all--by the time you've made it through that many rounds of selection you aren't going to let GI issues keep you from the finish. I've heard of some creative solutions to the problem involving safing the ejection seat and getting out of your gear, but I don't really believe any of them. If you think it's a significant risk, you basically have two options: talk to the squadron flight surgeon and get medically grounded, or wear a diaper. Almost everyone is too proud to do either of those things, so a number of pilots have call signs related to shitting themselves in flight. Yes, everyone will make fun of you after the fact--if you're a decent person, you'll at least clean out the cockpit yourself.

[WalterBright]

I suppose you could avoid eating hours before a mission, and not eat gassy foods.

[scarier]

That's one option, although for longer missions your preparation generally needs to start the night before and I wouldn't recommend flying on an empty stomach (unless it works for you, but it makes most people more susceptible to airsickness). There isn't one consistent method that works for everyone--I think the book Sled Driver has a section where they talk about physiological preparation for SR-71 flights, and the only consistent habit the crew had was NOT eating the "traditional," low-residue steak-and-eggs breakfast.

Good news for gassy food lovers is the cabin pressure changes make everyone fart, there's no one else in the cockpit to hear or smell you, and even if there was it'd be loud and they'd be wearing an oxygen mask. Little victories.

[WalterBright]

I don't pack liquids when flying as the lowered air pressure forces the liquid out of the container. Factory sealed is ok.

[cpgxiii]

Imodium also does wonders for slowing things down and avoiding bowel movements, provided you use it carefully and infrequently such that you don't totally mess up your normal gut functioning.

[the_af]

I wonder if hunger can affect your focus and reflexes though.

[WalterBright]

If missing a meal causes that, I suspect we would have died out as a species long ago.

[the_af]

The context is piloting a fighter aircraft in a multi-hour combat mission though. I think missing meal might matter for mission critical, uh, missions.

I'm not talking doing menial work while skipping lunch.

[WalterBright]

A full gut makes you sleepy and lethargic, as the blood moves to your gut to help digest. There's a reason many societies have a siesta after lunch.

A full belly can causes problem if you get wounded.

Besides, I doubt our ancestors went on the hunt with full bellies. I go jogging, but never after a meal.

If I'm busy, I also do not notice being hungry, even if I haven't eaten in 16+ hours.

One more thing. I hitched a ride with autocross racer. While I was strapped in tight, when he'd make a hard turn my guts would slosh over to the side, which was rather painful. The fix was to bear down hard on my abdominal muscles. I expect it would be much worse with a full belly, and a fighter pilot is going to be pulling lots of g's.

[the_af]

Oh, believe me, I know about the need for siestas.

But surely there's a middle ground between "heavy lunch" and "skipping lunch entirely" for a multi hour combat sortie?

Many people cannot focus (especially over long periods of time) on an empty stomach.

> If I'm busy, I also do not notice being hungry, even if I haven't eaten in 16+ hours.

Combat sorties are hours of boredom where you have to keep attention just in case, followed by an explosion of frantic action. Unless you're a combat pilot I'd say your experience doesn't apply here?

[Teever]

spurous reasoning because it relies on performance being a binary thing and not a gradiant.

[mr_toad]

in WWII they had to avoid serving gassy foods to bomber crews because at high altitudes intestinal issues could go from uncomfortable to lethal.

[WalterBright]

I didn't know that! But I do know that crews got eggs before flights. Nobody else did.

When RAF pilots went to the Soviet Union to help the Soviets, when the first frost came the pilots were horrified when the women brought out big vats of fat and ladled it out. But after flying in those cold temperatures, they realized the fat was just the thing to keep them warm!