[ErroneousBosh]

At the dealer it costs about £300 to get a Kia Niro EV serviced, which needs done every year.

It just cost me £75 to service my car, of which nearly £15 was just the cabin air filters which have got bizarrely expensive since last year.

[Schiendelman]

That sounds like a charge the dealer has made up to try to get you to spend money, not an actual need.

[ErroneousBosh]

Why? Don't you think they need serviced or something?

[Sohcahtoa82]

I've owned my Tesla for 6 years and 50,000 miles.

The only service it's needed beyond tires, wiper blades, and wiper fluid is a replacement of the low-voltage battery last year, which was under $200.

If you're paying $300/year to service your EV, either you drive a LOT or you're getting ripped off. There's nothing in an EV that requires $300/year in service.

There's no oil changes, no transmission fluid. Brake pads will last forever since regen should be doing at least 90% of your braking. Sure, maybe you still need tire rotations, but most tire shops will do it for free if you buy tires from them. I do them myself when I do the swap between winter and summer tires.

[ErroneousBosh]

> no oil changes, no transmission fluid

There is. You think those gears run completely dry?

> Brake pads will last forever since regen should be doing at least 90% of your braking.

Turns out they don't. Maybe if you are driving slowly in a completely flat part of the world they will. In an ICE-powered car, engine braking does most of the work anyway.

Incidentally, a set of brake pads lasts me two or three years, even allowing for pulling heavy trailers quite frequently. They're about £80 for a full set. Brake discs are more expensive but they last a very long time if you don't let the pads wear to the metal.

[Sohcahtoa82]

> There is. You think those gears run completely dry?

Sure, there's a fixed gear reduction that is lubricated, but it doesn't need frequent changing. It's a sealed unit. No moisture or debris from the outside gets in. As a result, it lasts an exceptionally long time, likely even the life of the car.

> Turns out they don't. Maybe if you are driving slowly in a completely flat part of the world they will.

I drive in Portland, which is anything but flat. I rarely use the foot brake.

> In an ICE-powered car, engine braking does most of the work anyway.

Absolutely not, especially in modern automatics which coast exceptionally well.

Another commenter said you're arguing in bad faith, and at this point, I'm highly inclined to believe them. You really just have no idea what you're talking about. Somebody has sold you lies, and the disappointing thing is, you bought the lies and even argue against people with first-hand experience.

You really just don't have a clue.

If you don't want an EV because an EV doesn't fit your lifestyle, that's fine. You mentioned pulling heavy trailers frequently. EVs absolutely suck balls at that. Sure, they've got tons of torque and certainly have the power to pull a trailer, but their range goes into the toilet. So an EV doesn't work for you, and that's okay, but that doesn't mean you have to believe in lies and spread them.

For fuck's sake, the brake pad thing is very widely known and accepted. I have no idea how you got convinced that brake pads in EVs don't last. Yes, they're heavy cars, but regen braking is huge. EVs actually typically have brake problems from the brakes being underused.

[Schiendelman]

The person you're replying to is just not having a conversation in good faith.

[Schiendelman]

From your other comment I do think you misunderstand their needs, yes.