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by mikkupikku 81 days ago
Crapitalism didn't let up for the benifit of the old veteran framers who didn't want to use nailguns, why should it let up for the benifit of old veteran programmers who don't want to use LLMs? We aren't special. Expecting a shakeup of society's whole economic system just to preserve your preference for old tools is totally out to lunch.
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martin-t 80 days ago
Because a shakeup only happens when enough people get fucked sufficiently.

I think you underestimate how actual AI would change the economy. All white collar jobs gone, not just programmers - customer support, accountants, managers, therapists, teachers, lawyers, engineers, researchers, designers, HR, marketing. All gone. Everything you can do from home - gone. IF your job doesn't involve physical interaction with the world - gone. And even if it does, it's cheaper to strap a camera to someone's forehead and let actual AI tell him what to do.

These people will still need to eat and they are highly competent so they'll try to get into careers which require manual skill, driving the value of those down as well. And that's even before robotics get sufficiently advanced to stop replacing those. Everyone will get fucked except those who own the AI companies.

And that's how you get a revolution.

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demorro 81 days ago
Used to be people sold capitalism as something that gave freedom to individuals. Now it's just the thing that forces us to to act against what we believe is best for ourselves and society at large. Anyone who expresses distaste for that is of course, out to lunch.
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mikkupikku 81 days ago
I'm not selling capitalism. I'm telling you that society is indifferent to your desire to program in the old ways, we're not going to start a worker's revolution for the sake of programmers who don't like coding agents. You can either adapt, or get left behind.
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martin-t 80 days ago
> adapt, or get left behind.

See my comment above - you still see AI as a tool because you're only considering what I call "AI" instead of aAI (actual AI).

Imagine Stephen Hawking level genius at every area of expertise, able to think faster than any human and cheaper than minimum wage but unable to interact with the physical world.

That's not a tool you adapt to use, that's a tool the owners of your company replace everyone with, except ironically those roughly minimum wage manual workers.

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