[cromka]

"Europe does it better".

Sorry, but as an European who roots for EU very much, I found that branding laughable, because it's absolutely not true at all. Those Eurooean alternatives are absolutely of significantly worse quality almost across the board, simply because there's less money thrown at them. It's also making it sound pretty, disingenuous, and adding to ongoing gamification of relationship with the US.

"Europe does it differently" would be so much better, because of the obvious better privacy, openness and standards compliance, as mandate by our regulations.

[croes]

> because of the obvious better privacy, openness and standards compliance, as mandate by our regulations.

So Europe does it better. Maybe you just have the wrong metric in mind. And given the amount of problems exist with Office, Outlook etc. I‘m not even sure if Europe is worse on the quality site. People are just used to US software faults.

[koonsolo]

I recently tried to replace Dropbox with Filen. Filen supports full encryption, so like you say better on privacy.

Then I mounted it as a drive on my MacBook, and moved some backup files there. The move took a while, and after it, no backups on my MacBook, and no backups on Filen. Just nothing, no log of it, nothing.

Going to stay with Dropbox.

So in this case, Europe definitely does not do it better.

Edit: I also tried to replace Sendgrid. All European alternatives are crazy expensive, so not going to replace that either.

Instead of focussing on old tech, and keep running behind US and China, maybe we should jump on the next boat.

[cromka]

> So Europe does it better

Better software pertains to quality of software, as long as software exists, not one's privacy. So while the latter is increasingly important, let's not bend the reality, OK?