[sysworld]

It's also abused by soo many devs, just wanting there app to be seen 24/7 by the users, regardless if there app gains anything from being in the menu bar. That's why many users run out of space. Most people don't look at settings or ways to remove them (if they even give an option), so they quickly fill up the menu bar. Back in the day without a notch, people would have so many that some menu items would disappear too.

[bayindirh]

A couple of my colleagues have so many applications running at the menu bar, so they have to use Bartender to be able to have anything resembling a functional menu bar.

I understand power users, but I don't understand these users.

[deathanatos]

… on my MBP, if we discount the icons that ship with macOS, the limit is 4 items. Past that, they're hidden by the notch.

I don't get why an overflow arrow once the limit is reached is so hard here.

Or letting users decide what the order of items in the bar should be.

[m-s-y]

command-click-and-drag them to where you want 'em. don't need bartender for this

[Angostura]

Weird. I think I have about 4.

Someone is confusing the menu bar for the Dock

[tass]

Try a corporate laptop. Every stupid thing you don’t need except to know it’s running is there, but you don’t know it’s running because they may just be hidden.

Jamf, zscaler, virus checkers, etc. need to all go to hell with this crap. I’m glad Tailscale are removing theirs.

[ehutch79]

Your experience is not everyone s experience. Are you one of their colleagues. No? Then they weren’t talking about you.

[bayindirh]

They don't have to be one of my colleagues to share their own perspective and experience. We're a rather large band of computer using people here, and it's good to share experiences and viewpoints.

[bayindirh]

Currently I have 6 extras, which is a rare number I see. My normal number is 3.

[saagarjha]

I am so glad that macOS Tahoe just lets me banish those apps to the shadow realm

[bayindirh]

I believe being able to remove these icons were possible since Leopard/Snow Leopard days.

[saagarjha]

Not the ones from apps

[bayindirh]

You might be right. It was long ago, and I was a Mac OS X newbie back then.

[kstrauser]

I do love that change. I’d deleted Bartender when it sold out, and now I’m glad that I don’t need or miss it at all.