[dwohnitmok]

This seems to have a healthy helping of AI editing help (if not fully generated by AI). The links don't quite go to the sources that they should and there's a lot of AI-isms.

Anyways, the calculation for the costs seem crazy high (and are pulled from an ft article). In particular they are based off a calculation that assumes Sora videos take 10 min to generate (which seems simply wrong; I've personally generated Sora videos that take less than 10 min to return fully formed), fully saturate 4 H200s at once (this seems wrong with batching; I would assume they're batching a lot of tokens together per forward pass), and, crucially, that OpenAI is paying full spot, end-user pricing for an H200 (at $2 an hour). As an individual, I can rent an H200 for $2 an hour on e.g. vast.ai (and sometimes even cheaper than that!). There is absolutely no way OpenAI is spending anywhere near that number.

I also have no idea where the Appfigures $2.1 million comes from. As far as I can tell it doesn't exist at all in the linked website.

I don't really trust the numbers here.

[nerptastic]

I haven’t really been following this, but my understanding is that they’re cancelling this program - I haven’t dug into the “why” too much, seems like something about the Disney deal, “focusing on other initiatives”… My thought was that it’s because they’re not making money on it. Why else would they shut down a revenue stream? If it’s decent they don’t even need to improve it, it would be mostly passive income.

[a2128]

Other than money, a really good reason to shut down Sora is that it was a horrible idea in the first place that went completely against OpenAI's mission to make AI benefit humanity and improve lives. Sora was like TikTok, an app already thought to waste time and ruin attention spans, except even worse because there was no real information as everything inside is AI generated. More than that, it had a dual use as it allowed generating fake footage of protests etc that people then reuploaded to other platforms to mislead people. There is nothing about Sora I can think of that benefited humanity, it was only a net negative and a race to the bottom for more extreme memes and desensitizing people to reality.

[dwohnitmok]

There are many ways for a project to no longer be worth the company's attention. E.g. it might be the case that total costs factoring in on-going engineering energy and money (which is quite different than just compute costs!) are too much. It might be that political risk exposure from the product isn't worth the benefits it brings (Sora was always a lightning rod of criticism). It might be that the opportunity cost of engineering and/or compute resources spent on a product is too high (very different than absolute cost).

All this is to say, even for very compute cheap things, companies shut down "mostly passive income" revenue streams all the time (see e.g. Google's graveyard of products). There are all sorts of other organizational costs associated with ongoing maintenance of a product.

[Aedelon]

Sorry, I wrote wrong link for several source.

1. Appfigures $2.1M = https://appfigures.com/reports/app-profile/338340235920

2. Watermark bypass = https://www.404media.co/sora-2-watermark-removers-flood-the-...

3. Goldman Sachs $410B = https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...