[throwaw12]

> I still want to _code_ not just vibe my way through tickets.

Now we have 3 ways of coding:

* vim / emacs - full manual

* VSCode / IntelliJ - semi-automatic

* ClaudeCode/Codex/OpenCode/... - fully automated

Cursor can't stay in between

[Hoefner]

Cursor CLI exist - https://cursor.com/cli

[vorticalbox]

This is how use cursor 99% of the time. The other 1% is in zed.

[ninininino]

Saying it can't stay in between is like saying a company can't sell both regular bikes and electric bikes. Or bikes that can do both.

[hparadiz]

There are some critical parts of architecture where sometimes I really do need to see the code and even sometimes put a wall around it and tell the agent they can't touch it.

[jimbokun]

Why?

Are you saying they can’t compete with VS Code in the semi-automatic space?

[throwaw12]

Yes, They can't compete

VSCode is open source and ahead, and getting lots of contributions from different companies.

On the other hand, you have JetBrains with a specific expertise in JVM based dev environments, it's possible to compete with them, but very time consuming

They better focus on one thing and win the developers, otherwise they would lose (and losing) to Claude Code and Codex on one side, on the other side they will lose to JetBrains and VSCode

Better to focus