[jauco]

I generally just search around.

Btw: if you are interested in this, note that it often isn’t clear cut where a company is from.

For example: https://european-alternatives.eu/product/zitadel bills itself as a swiss company, and it might technically be one, but it looks very much like a general SF startup to me (business address in sf, all investors are US based)

[ffo]

Zitadel CEO here :-)

Zitadel started in Switzerland under the name CAOS AG and has still a lot of its operations in Europe. For our US go to market strategy we incorporated Zitadel Inc. which operates out of SF where I also tend to be.

Happy to share more if interested

[jauco]

Thanks for the clarification! Does the AG still exist?

And I think this speaks to my point that it isn’t a simple yes/no question :)

[ffo]

It absolutly does https://zefix.ch/en/search/entity/list/firm/1391256 :-)

The matter is definitely more complex than yes and no... my general stand has been that jurisdiction matters a lot when you store and process data from customers, like many cloud services do. iIt matters less if you can take a software and self-host it.

[touwer]

Pitty that it only operates on Gcloud. Makes it not European

[ffo]

I hear you! Right now that is a constraint even if we have regions in EU and Switzerland.

You can easy deploy Zitadel to Hetzner though ;-)

[BrunoBernardino]

Great point, including the CEO reply. I know it's not simple/easy/binary, which is why having a starting list is incredibly helpful! I also search around a lot in other lists, like awesome privacy [1] and awesome self-hosted [2].

[1]: https://github.com/lissy93/awesome-privacy

[2]: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted