[thegeomaster]

And it seems they've decided to go closed-source for their largest, best models.

[FuckButtons]

3.5-plus was also only available via api. I don’t know what the long term business model for open weights is, I hope there is one, but it seems foolish to assume that companies will be willing to spend millions of dollars of compute on an asset worth zero in perpetuity.

[vidarh]

The business case is to salt the earth for new competitors, coupled with marketing.

[kgeist]

They've always had closed-source variants:

- Qwen3.5-Plus

- Qwen3-Max

- Qwen2.5-Max

etc. Nothing really changed so far.

[coldtea]

They always did that. Did they say anywhere they'd open all their models? They still have a business.