[james2doyle]

None of the Qwen 3.5 models seem present? I’ve heard people are pretty happy with the smaller 3.5 versions. I would be curious to see those too.

I would also be interested to see "KAT-Coder-Pro-V2" as they brag about their benchmarks in these bots as well

[Aerroon]

If they use OpenRouter pricing then the Qwen3.5 models are going to be poor value.

The Qwen3.5 27B model on OR is $1.56/million tokens out (it used to be $2.4/mil).

Meanwhile Minimax M2.7 (a much larger model) is $1.2/mil out.

The smaller and medium tier Qwen3.5 models are only really cost effective if you run them yourself.

[james2doyle]

Oh I never noticed that. Good to call out. But that would put it much closer to Minimax M2.7 in terms of price than to the likes of Mimo V2 Pro, and Gemini Flash 3 preview, which are both on the list

[p1necone]

Is Minimax M2.7 better than Qwen3.5 27B, or is it just bigger?

[kdasme]

Minimax M2.7 is similar to sonnet in my tests. This is the first non OAI/Anthropic model I use for coding. It does require more steering, though.

[wg0]

More steering than Sonnet? What is your experience?

[wilj]

I'm about 2 days into transitioning, using MiMo V2 Pro in place of Opus and MiniMax M2.7 in place of Sonnet.

I'm finding that the extra "hand holding" that MiMo and MiniMax need isn't really "extra." The Anthropic models happily agree to a plan and then do something else entirely way too often.

With MiMo and MiniMax I'm just spreading the attention throughout the day instead of big spikes of frustration figuring out where Claude went off the rails.

[wg0]

Thank for responding. So you are using MiMo V2 Pro to plan and then asking MiniMax M2.7 to read that plan file and execute? Or how the workflow looks like?

Pi/Opencode/Kilocode? Just curious.

I am using Opencode mostly and thinking to abandon Copilot so looking for something similar.

[Aerroon]

Yes, it's significantly better.