[ceejayoz]

Selected excerpts:

> In the statement, a Bahraini government spokesperson said the [Patriot] missile successfully intercepted an Iranian drone mid-air, saving lives.

> Wars in the Middle East and Ukraine have put a spotlight on how limited supplies of sophisticated missiles—including multimillion-dollar Patriot interceptors—are sometimes being used to defend against mass-produced drones that cost just a few thousand dollars.

> Gulf states are also spending big on the war. Nations including Saudi Arabia have launched multimillion-dollar Patriot interceptors and fired missiles from aircraft to take out Iranian drones.

The E-3 Sentry that got blown up was reportedly hit by drone. I'd guess they wish a Patriot had stopped that one.

[bawolff]

> Bahraini

Bahrain is not the usa. There are many reports that gulf states use patriot missiles much more freely than usa does.

> are sometimes being used to defend against mass-produced drones that cost just a few thousand dollars

"Sometimes" being the key word here. I think 1% of the time would technically constitute sometimes and changes the ecconomics considerably.

It should be noted the Shahed-136 drone that was mentioned above cost $100,000, not a couple thousand.

My position is not that it never happens, just that its relatively rare and a bit overblown in the media. Military does need to figure out better solutions, but the status quo is not use a patriot on every drone.

[ceejayoz]

> There are many reports that gulf states use patriot missiles much more freely than usa does.

I've seen the opposite claimed; that the US is surprisingly wasteful with their expensive ammo.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/us...

"“Often they [the US and its allies] were firing thoughtlessly,” the officer said. “For example, they used SM-6 missiles — from a ship, a very good anti-missile missile. This missile costs about $6 million, and they used it to shoot down a Shahed costing $70,000.”"

> It should be noted the Shahed-136 drone that was mentioned above cost $100,000, not a couple thousand.

That's the marked-up export cost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136

"various estimates for domestic production cost range from $10,000 to $50,000"